The PEDIGREE of
Wenemar (Seigneur) de LILERS (LILLERS)

     Born:  abt. 1079


Poss. HM George I's 18-Great Grandfather.       Poss. HRE Ferdinand I's 15-Great Grandfather.       Poss. HRE Charles VI's 18-Great Grandfather.       Poss. U.S. President [WASHINGTON]'s 21-Great Grandfather.       Poss. PM Churchill's 24-Great Grandfather.       Poss. HM Margrethe II's 25-Great Grandfather.       Poss. `Osawatomie' Brown's 22-Great Grandfather.       Poss. Jamie's 26-Great Grandfather.

 Wife/Partner:       ?
 Child:       Emma de LILERS (LILER)
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/-- prob.  Gainfroi von MESSGAU   +====> [ 255 ,,x,&]
/-- Giselbert (Count) von MESSGAU (MOSELLE)
/ or: prob. not Alberon II of Mons, q.v.
/ OR: prob. not Rainier de SAUNOIS   +====> [ 255 ,,x,&]
/  \-- Theidlindis de BLOIS   +==&=> [ 255 ,,x,&]
/-- Giselbert II von MAASGAU
/  \-- prob.  (Miss; de) HESBAYE   +====> [ 255 ,,x,&]
/-- Regnier (Rainer Reginar) I (Count) de HAINAULT
/  \-- Ermengarde (Helletrude) de LORRAINE   +==&=> [ 255 ,C,&]
/-- Regnier (Rainier Reginar) II (Count) of HAINAULT
\-- Hersent (MARTEL ?; de FRANCE ?)   +====> [ 255 ,c,&]
/   / OR: prob. Alberade of MONS of LORRAINE   +====> [ 255 ,,x,&]
/-- poss.  Amaury de HAINAULT  (925? - 983?)
/-- Theodore (Count) of ARDENNES   +====> [ 255 ,,x,&]
/   / (skip this generation?)
/-- Richard `the Righteous' (Duke) of BURGUNDY
\-- Adelaide (Alix Aelis Alice) of BURGUNDY
/   \-- Adelheid (Adelaide) of BURGUNDY   +==&=> [ 255 ,c,pt,&]
/-- Raoul de VALENCIENNES
/-- Isaac (Count) of CAMBRAI
\-- poss.  Judith de CAMBRAY (CAMBRAI)  (931? - 983?)
/-- Baldwin I `Bras der Fer' of FLANDERS   +====> [ 255 ,c,&]
/   / OR: poss. not Baldwin I of FLANDERS [alt   +====> [ 6]
/-- Rudolph (Raoul) (Count) of CAMBRAI
/  \-- Judith (Princess) of FRANCE   +==&=> [ 255 ,C,&]
\-- Bertha(?) de CAMBRAI (CAMBRAY)  (895? - ?)
/ or: Alberade of HAINAULT
/-- Eghard (Hechiard) d' AMIENS  (by 840 - ?)
/   \-- Alaide (Alaides) d' AMIENS  (? - 955+)
/-- Ingelram (Sire) de LILERS (LILLERS)  (? - 1084?)
/  
- Wenemar (Sn.) de LILERS (LILLERS)
\-- prob. not  Mathilde de FRANCE  (1060? - ?)
 

 
  His (poss.) Grandchildren:       Hellin I de WAVRIN   ;   Ancilla (Ancilia) de WAVRIN   ;   Agnes de WAVRIN   ;   Robert de WAVRIN
 

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